Saturday 8 September 2012

David Pierce, Used Car Salesman, Garage, Moorside Motors, Longlands, Stanghow Road, Lingdale, Salburn, Guisborough - Bad Review

Used car salesmen and garages to avoid in Middlesbrough area.

 My nightmare experience with purchasing a car from the Pierce family - used car salesmen in Middlesbrough / Longlands / Stranghow Road / Guisborough / Saltburn / Skinninggrove - Bad Review

 This is my review of our experience from a used car salesman, David Pierce.


 The reason we are putting this online is because we had a very bad experience with him during which we discovered that trading standards knew who he was and had been involved with him numerous amounts of times in the past. Before we bought a car from him, I tried to look for reviews online of his garage and couldn't find any. This is most likely because he keeps changing work premises and business name, but I feel that it's only right that people ought to be warned of him whether they choose to accept the advice or not.

 This was where David Pierce was operating from a few months ago when we had dealings with him.

 David Pierce
Bargain Motors
 Unit L,
Warelands Way
 Longlands
 Middlesbrough
 Cleveland
 TS4 2JY
 08446639053 


 He seems to have since changed the name of the business and is operating from new addresses, namely:

 Bargain Motors
 Stanghow Road
 Lingdale
 Saltburn by the sea
 Cleveland
 TS12 3ED 


and / or


 MOORSIDE MOTORS,
STANGHOW ROAD,
LINGDALE,
OFF A171
MOOR ROAD
GUISBOROUGH,
TS12 3ED
01287 348758 or 07581129864
OPEN 7 DAYS UNTIL LATE 


Current places online by the same used car salesman.
Gumtree: http://www.gumtree.com/volkswagen/middlesbrough/moorside+motors+lingdale
Ebay: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/moorsidemotors/?_trksid=p4340.l2559 - Member since: 16-Mar-12  - which probably means he changes his account often.

Review of Bargain Motors / Moorside Motors Stanghow Road, Lingdale, Mr Pierce


 On the 30th of June 2012 we purchased a car for just under £900 from a Garage in Longlands, Middlesbrough - owned by a man named David Pierce operating at the time under the name "Bargain Motors" The car was advertised both on gumtree and ebay and advertised as "running perfectly"

 The truth of the matter is that no more than 30 minutes down the road it was obvious that the car had serious problems with overheating and suspitious noises from the engine.
I was due to go away the same day - a fact which David Pierce was aware of - and had no option but to hand it over to a family member to try and sort out while I was away - all of which was an enormous inconvenience especially as I had already filled the tank with petrol and put the car on my insurance ready to take it to the other side of the country and had to arrive a day late on my holiday.

 David Pierce had initially played the situation down, asking for the car to be returned and casually suggesting for "the keys to be pushed under the door of his unit" and for the situation to be sorted out when he got round to it or upon my return. The car was returned to his unit but we decided to hold on to both the keys and documentation as we had absolutely no guarantee that the situation was going to be sorted out and the whole thing seemed very suspicious. We were right to do this, as I will go on to explain later.

 By the time we had returned, the situation had still not been sorted out and David Pierce wasn't replying to texts or phonecalls. After doing some digging, we discovered that the previous owner of the car had spent hundreds trying to get it fixed before eventually giving in, having no other option than to sell the car on as scrap! ( So much for "running perfectly" then!??)

 We then discovered through talking to and seeking advice from other local garages that the Pierce family were well known as having a bad reputation in the Middlesbrough / Redcar / Saltburn / Guisborough area and that they had changed business locations and business names numerous amounts of times in the past due to the consequences of ripping people off with dodgy cars.
 We also found out that they had even been ousted from their community in Skinningrove a few years back after provoking vandalism and arson in the area after unhappy, ripped off customers had acted out their revenge.

 After ringing trading standards, it was very obvious that they had dealt with the Pierce family before. We were advised to write a letter to David Pierce explaining why we weren't happy and to keep copies of the letter. Many other attempts at communication with David Pierce were made. Usually we were ignored, but whenever we did manage to speak to David Pierce we were either fobbed off or messed about.

 After much persistence of contacting, we were offered initially for the car to be repaired - something we were not really prepared to accept at all given what we'd discovered about the car being sold as scrap and thus unrepairable. Then we were told we would be able to get a replacement car. Again, this wasn't really an acceptable option either. Why would we want another dodgy car from the Pierce family? We had already wasted money by putting another car on the insurance, which turned out to be completely unusable.

 At various other times we were told that in their "website's terms and conditions" online (which was actually their 'about section' on their ebay account) - that all cars were sold as either scrap or repair. Aside from this being a lie, (the car I bought was advertised as "running perfectly") this would have meant that every other car advertised by them online would surely therefore fall into the description of false advertising?!

 We were also told "we don't really do refunds mate" and that the letters which were posted to him, when asked had conveniently "gone missing". All the while, there more more suggestions of him asking us to "post the car keys through his unit door" - fat chance!

 We then discovered that the car we bought - and still technically owned - had been relisted on gumtree and advertised for sale again!!! The listing was in no way changed either and was still described as "running perfectly" Suddenly David's requests to "push the keys under the unit door" were beginning to make sense! Had we done as much he could've sold the car on which would have left us with no proof of ownership!!

 On the day we rang him insisting to meet with him to arrange a refund, he was on his way to the airport off on a holiday to Cyprus! We were told that we could instead speak with father, Terry Pierce - owner of "Terrypiercecars" - a used car showroom in Saltburn who boasts about being a "family businesses offering that personal touch to their customers " 

 David had told Terry Pierce that we were coming to "take another car from them t use until the original car was repaired" - something we had absolutely not agreed to neither had we any knowledge of!!! When we got there we were fobbed off still after demanding a refund.
We were told by Terry Pierce that we would "have to see David about that because it was his son's business and not his." - So he says.

 This meant waiting yet another week while our own work suffered because we could not afford to purchase another car in the meantime. When David Pierce returned from his holiday in Cyprus, we had already been waiting a month and the situation was still nowhere near resolved.

Trading Standards were ready to take action, and conveniently, as soon as we threatened David with this and were about to go through with it, he was suddenly quite eager to contact us for once and arrange to meet up to refund our money!!!

This blog serves as a warning. I would strongly advise anyone I know not to buy anything from David Pierce or his father, Terry Pierce who owns the showroom. In my opinion they're all in on it together.
If you are unfortunate enough to have been through a similar experience, my advice would be to get in touch with Trading Standards as soon as possible. They were more than willing to take him to court and seemed to indicate that we wouldn't have had a leg to stand on in court.




31 comments:

  1. I WOULD LIKE WHOEVER POSTED THIS BLOG TO CONTACT ME ON 07581129864 WITH YOUR CONTACT DETAILS SO WE CAN TAKE THIS FURTHER.
    YOU HAD A FAULT WITH A 12 YEAR OLD USED CAR WHICH MIRACULOUSLY CAN HAPPEN! I WAS AWAY ON VACATION AND WHEN I RETURNED YOU WERE GIVEN A FULL REFUND, WHAT EXACTLY HAVE I DONE WRONG HERE? ALSO WE HAVE NEVER TRADED FROM SKINNINGROVE AND OTHER SUCH AREAS, WE HAVE TRADED FROM MIDDLESBROUGH AND SALTBURN AND HAVE MANY HAPPY CUSTOMERS AND A VERY GOOD REPUTATION, WE WOULD LIKE THIS BLOG REMOVED AS IT PAINTS A TERRIBLE PICTURE FOR US WHEN THE REALITY IS WE PROVIDE AN EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR CONTACT DETAILS INSTEAD OF REMAINING ANONYMOUS..

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    1. I was coming to yours tomorrow, i have my eye on one for days and it was the best price, but thanks for the scoop Mr Anonymous

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  2. I was actually looking at one of the cars at this place on eBay. I think I'll look elsewhere now!

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  3. Same thing has happened to us! I was pregnant and sold a car that was 'running perfectly' 5 months ago. After 2 weeks the car broke down and after being shouted at by one of the owners of this garage whilst heavily pregnant, they agreed to put the problem right. What they did in fact was leave fix the smallest problem and left the rest. I have been left with a car which does not run as it needs a new fly wheel, a new fuel pump, injectors and filter. It also needs a new clutch kit. We have already paid out to have a new starter motor and battery fitted as the fly wheel has caused that much damage to the car. According to several garages we have spoken to, this problem has been an issue for much longer than we have had the car to have caused the damage it has. When I relayed this information back to the owner of moor side motors, I was met with abuse. Luckily I have recorded these conversations. I explained that these problems would cost me the same as I had payed for the car to put right and with a toddler and a baby on the way this was not a possibility. I accept this was a used car but I do not expect to pay £1500 to have to pay another £1500 to fix it. I was then told by the owner that 'it wasn't his problem, and he didn't get me pregnant so he didn't care. I was disgusted at his lack of professionalism and I'm now taking the issue up with trading standards.

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  4. Can I just clarify that my complaint is regarding moorside motors

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  5. I think your all being totally ridiculous. I bought my dad a car from him. never met the guy before but he was great. I bought a Subaru Forrester which was 11 years old. he was honest and the buisness and the man are top notch. I am currently in the process of getting another. All you loosers are being totally unfare. Ive also bought a brand new car recently and it was in the garage a month later.... things go wrong with cars no matter how old !!!!!!! get a grip

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  8. me and my family have had 3 cars from moorside motors over the last 18 months,never had any problems really,we had a good drive of the cars first before we got them,,,for what we paid for the cars we dont expect new ones,,,if i need another car i no where i will be going...

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  10. All the cars you hav are shit

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  11. My nightmare experience with purchasing a car from the Pierce family - used car salesmen in Middlesbrough / Longlands / Stranghow Road / Guisborough / Saltburn / Skinninggrove - Bad Review Bike releases

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  12. We have just purchased a car from Longlands - Michael the owner was fantastic and couldn't do enough for us / we had an RAC inspection on the car which came back fine only thing was new brake disks recommended which he replaced free of charge along with 12month MOT and 1/2 tank petrol to get home ---- we would definitely recommend Longlands and would return to buy another car!!!!!

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  13. I bought a ford focus estate off this man I have had it 6 days and 3 of them days it has been in the garage it has cost me upto now over 750 pound I part exed my car and 600 pound I rang him today and was told to f off so I phoned citezens advice and told them and inturn they have reported him to trading standers so please DONT BUY OFF THIS MAN OR HIS COMPANY

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  14. I was also told of this man if I come back to his garage he would make sure I wouldn't walk away

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  15. I have bought loads of cars of terry and never had a problem with them

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    1. Really terry ? Do you think I was also born yesterday

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  16. Absolute con man. Took 2 grand off me for an Audi with 'full service history' it lasted about 200 yards before warning lights came on. Another couple of mile and the turbo blew. Gave me a 100% reliable curtesy car that is also a pile of junk while his mate looks at the Audi. Clutch/gear box issues and can't turn right due to metal on metal grinding. This idiot expects me to take the Audi back. NOT A CHANCE would I ever have a car from these con men. Best advice I can give is keep away. There a reason why they have so many bad reviews

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  17. This garage has a draw full of stamps for the service history books so beware of that aswell. Currently going thru citizens advice and trading standards as people like this should not be in business.

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  18. Thanks for this - saved me a whole bunch of grief. I've been watching one of their cars on eBay but something was playing on my mind about the seller. Googled the name and found this - fairly certain his name has come up on a car club forum I subscribe to.

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  19. I bought a car from the Lingdale garage from Terry, 2 years ago. I didn't know cars were supposed to have at least 1 month test on it when they are sold. Mine had 3 weeks on it. Terry said it would sail thru a test, it failed & it cost me nearly £1000 to have repaired. There is something wrong with the tracking, I have to have new front tyres every 3 months & the de pollution system kept coming up as faulty & the car had no power & couldn't go faster than 30mph. I use cataclean every month & have to use expensive BP ultimate diesel. At the moment, I have a sensor problem, telling me the abs/esp is faulty altho it hasn't been warning me for last 3 days but I'm sure it'll be back before long. I came back from Leeds, 2 weeks ago & I couldn't pick up speed on the slip road onto the A1M. The smell of burning was so strong & I expected the car to burst into flames. When buying the car, I told Terry I needed a large estate for my young grandchildren but it seems the safety of the vehicles are none of his concern! Bloody cowboy conmen! Stay Clear!!!

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  20. Oh my word, we were interested in the megane convertable, thank you for this blog, I will look elsewhere.

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  21. Oh my word, we were interested in the megane convertable, thank you for this blog, I will look elsewhere.

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  22. Another robbed customer.

    I bought a car from this man paid £4000 for it when driving at speed the engine cut out asked for my money back told too f off threatened to sort me out, stay well away from Countryside cars in lingdale.

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  23. My daughter saved up for months to buy herself a car (sitting her test next month) found a Citroën at countryside cars. Mot for a year, was told it drives well and ideal first car. Paid for it, brought it home and parked it on the drive, ready for when she passed her test. Daughter started the car up yesterday and drove up and down the drive and noticed a noise coming from front of car. Neighbour looked and suspects it's a coil spring. Phoned country side cars as obviously fault when she bought it since it hasn't been driven only to be told that they don't guarantee cars under £1000 and that she should just go get it fixed. So after paying £700 and trusting the salesman she now has a car that can't be driven. Well done countryside cars, hope your proud of ripping young girls off.

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  24. I honestly don't know what all you whinging losers are complaining about, a used/second hand car is exactly that ! If you're expecting totally none faulty goods, when it comes to cars you've got to understand that, the used vehicle has already been on the road for several years before you purchased it, so problems will happen to them, mechanical problems can arise with any vehicle at any time I know a friend of mine who has a brand new Range Rover and he has only driven it approx five times, due to it being back in the garage more times than he's had it, so that is a prime example of a vehicle going wrong, but just for all you complainants, if you want a vehicle that is looked after with total efficiency, then pay for it, if your only paying second hand prices only expect second hand goods. Also as I personally know of several people that have purchased from the Pierce family, because I've done a little investigating myself, I haven't heard a really bad complaint about them, and the people I spoke to who did have a complaint all said "well what do you expect for the price you pay, for the cars they sell, they're second hand" !
    To finish this off all I can say is, if you want top class cars, pay top class prices, if you want second hand cars, pay second hand prices. !!

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  28. Is this the same used car dealer now on longlands road

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    1. Yes, I believe so. David Pierce.
      And his father, Terry Pierce has a business “Terry pierce cars” in Middlesbrough now.

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